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Muhammad Irfan Kas - What will we decide about Yazeed?
He has killed Hazrat Imam Hussain Radiallah Taala Anho and he( Hazrat Imam Hussain Radiallah Taala Anho) is also a Sahabi
He has killed Hazrat Imam Hussain Radiallah Taala Anho and he( Hazrat Imam Hussain Radiallah Taala Anho) is also a Sahabi
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Najeeb Ullah Khan - +Muhammad Irfan Kas we will not decide.....we will ask mufti sahiban about this?
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Muhammad Shuaib - +Muhammad Irfan Kas He is not sahabi. Who has said so? He is truly responsible for Shahadat of Hazrat Hussain(R.A). Although he has not personally killed Hazrat Hussain(R.A) but as the rule and king he is fully responsible(as his governor and his army killed Hazrat Hussain(R.A). I question you that if any one say that Hazrat Hussain(R.A) was kafir(Naozubillah) then will he be Muslim or Kafir? Same is the case for Hazrat Ali(R.A) and upto Hazrat Abu Bakr Siddique(R.A). There is no doubt in that.
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Muhammad Shuaib - +Muhammad Irfan Kas Yazeed born in 645 and our beloved Prophet Hazrat Muhammad Rasoolullah(SAW) left us in 632. So how can he be sahabi????? Please do some research.
Yesterday 21:12
Muhammad Irfan Kas - This is what I am also asking them. There are some Yazeedis also in our Muslim Society. Who say Yazees is a Muslim. And these people also say that Shia is a Kafir. You must have got some doubt in my question. Now you must have understood.
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Muhammad Irfan Kas - I have now edited my comment so that my words become clear. Sorry that I was unable to clear my point. But now it is cleared. May Allah guide us all.
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Muhammad Shuaib - +Muhammad Irfan Kas Yes, now you have corrected the statement. Any one who curse Sahaba(R.A) and say them kafir is also kafir. No doubt in that. We Ahlus Sunnah Wal Jamaat don't belong to that group who justify Yazeed, he is fully responsible of qatal of Hazrat Sayed Hussain(R.A), fasiq and characterless person. But we also do say that anyone who believe Hazrat Abu Bakr Siddique, Hazrat Umar, Hazrat Usman, Hazrat Ali or any Sahabi(R.A) as kafir he is kafir.(Even if a sunni is doing that he will also be declared kafir but if a complete firqah believes that Sahaba are kafir then that firqah is surely kafir, no doubt in that). Do you believe that a person saying kafir to most sacred friends of Rasoolullah(SAW)(i.e. Sahabaa(R.A) for whom Allah has promised in Quran for Jannah various times) is also kafir????
What about your emaan????
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Muhammad Irfan Kas - There is a statement: That when a person (Muslim) says some other person that "you are a Non Muslim (Kafir)". Then ultimately one of them is Kafir (Non Muslim).
There is no doubt in the Faith of Hazrat Abu Bakar Siddiq Radiallah Ta ala Anho as a Muslim and as the first Caliph of Muslims after our beloved prophet Hazrat Muhammad Sallalaho Alaihe Wassalam.
But now can you give me any example of a person or a firqah declaring "Hazrat Abubakar Siddiq Radialla Ta ala Anho is a Non Muslim." Remember that to declare a person non muslim and to have some dispute and giving some odd remarks (either wrong or right) about a person are two different things, and on each condition, shariah's laws are different, so just let me know?
Collapse this commentThere is no doubt in the Faith of Hazrat Abu Bakar Siddiq Radiallah Ta ala Anho as a Muslim and as the first Caliph of Muslims after our beloved prophet Hazrat Muhammad Sallalaho Alaihe Wassalam.
But now can you give me any example of a person or a firqah declaring "Hazrat Abubakar Siddiq Radialla Ta ala Anho is a Non Muslim." Remember that to declare a person non muslim and to have some dispute and giving some odd remarks (either wrong or right) about a person are two different things, and on each condition, shariah's laws are different, so just let me know?
Muhammad Irfan Kas - The above mentioned point will not be effective for all the Prophets( Alaihe Assalam) of Allah including our beloved prophet Hazrat Muhammad Sallalaho Alaihe Wassalam.
All the prophets are clear from any kind of sin and no one can point out a single mistake upon all the prophets (alaihe Assalam).
Their each and every step is the will of Allah, Their every wordings are the will of Allah.
Other then the prophets (alaihe Assalam) , the conditions changed.
All the prophets are clear from any kind of sin and no one can point out a single mistake upon all the prophets (alaihe Assalam).
Their each and every step is the will of Allah, Their every wordings are the will of Allah.
Other then the prophets (alaihe Assalam) , the conditions changed.
Muhammad Irfan Kas - And also let me know about your opinion on the people who justify Yazeed?
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Muhammad Shuaib - Ok, so you are of opinion that saying a normal Muslim a kafir will make you kafir. So, what about saying kafir to Sahabi(R.A). Now verify these evidences and extracts from different books of Shias
1. Sahabah (r.a) became infidel by denying the divine right (Wilayat) of Hazrat Ali. First three caliph and other Sahabas became infidel by denying the divine right of (Wilayat) of Hazrat Ali. (Asool Kaafi, Page No. 420)(This book is perhaps the most highly ranking book for Shias).
2. Abu Bakr and Umar were more tyrant than Shaitan. (Haq-ul-Yaqeen, Page No. 509)
3. Hazrat Abu Bakr (r.a) could not recite Kalma at the time of his death. (Israr-e-Muhammad, Page No. 211)
4. Neither we accept such Lord nor do we accept the Prophet of such Lord whose Caliph is Abu-Bakr (r.a) (Na'uzubillah). [Anwaar-ul-Na'umania, Vol#2, Pg#278 - Published Iran]
There are hundreds of references cross checked and fully authenticated. Are you Sunni or Shia by the way?
Collapse this comment1. Sahabah (r.a) became infidel by denying the divine right (Wilayat) of Hazrat Ali. First three caliph and other Sahabas became infidel by denying the divine right of (Wilayat) of Hazrat Ali. (Asool Kaafi, Page No. 420)(This book is perhaps the most highly ranking book for Shias).
2. Abu Bakr and Umar were more tyrant than Shaitan. (Haq-ul-Yaqeen, Page No. 509)
3. Hazrat Abu Bakr (r.a) could not recite Kalma at the time of his death. (Israr-e-Muhammad, Page No. 211)
4. Neither we accept such Lord nor do we accept the Prophet of such Lord whose Caliph is Abu-Bakr (r.a) (Na'uzubillah). [Anwaar-ul-Na'umania, Vol#2, Pg#278 - Published Iran]
There are hundreds of references cross checked and fully authenticated. Are you Sunni or Shia by the way?
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Muhammad Irfan Kas - And also let me know about your opinion on the people who justify Yazeed?
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Muhammad Irfan Kas - Another point which will help us a lot is that when was the first Fatwa was given against Shia declaring them as Kafir?
Who give this Fatwa? Name the person.
Secondly why we Muslims has not made approach together of declaring Shia as Kafir?
What is the definition of a Muslim? And does Shia fulfill this definition or not?
I am asking these questions because we Muslims has declared Qadianis as non Muslims not long ago, and it has been approved by all Muslim world.
Where are we standing? And the right way in my view is just the same as Muslims has taken against Qadianis.
Extra Judicial killings is not the solution of this phenomena.
We are fighting the war of two countries Iran and Saudi Arabia in our country, and this is not a good thing.
Collapse this commentWho give this Fatwa? Name the person.
Secondly why we Muslims has not made approach together of declaring Shia as Kafir?
What is the definition of a Muslim? And does Shia fulfill this definition or not?
I am asking these questions because we Muslims has declared Qadianis as non Muslims not long ago, and it has been approved by all Muslim world.
Where are we standing? And the right way in my view is just the same as Muslims has taken against Qadianis.
Extra Judicial killings is not the solution of this phenomena.
We are fighting the war of two countries Iran and Saudi Arabia in our country, and this is not a good thing.
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Muhammad ShuaibYesterday 21:38
You are Sunni, good to know that. Why haven't you answered my question???? I gave proofs with reference. Now what do you say??? Don't beat around the bushes. Come to the point. Same old strategy.
Muhammad Irfan Kas17:40Edit
I am not beating around the bushes, You have not given the answers which I have asked in my next phase. And secondly who has given you the authority to give Fatwa?
You are also assuming, I have asked very simple questions.
The second part of my question was unanswered and I am writing now for the third time about the question followed:
And also let me know about your opinion on the people who justify Yazeed?
Other questions are also unanswered.
Another point which will help us a lot is that when was the first Fatwa was given against Shia declaring them as Kafir?
Who give this Fatwa? Name the person.
Secondly why we Muslims has not made approach together of declaring Shia as Kafir?
What is the definition of a Muslim? And does Shia fulfill this definition or not?
I am asking these questions because we Muslims has declared Qadianis as non Muslims not long ago, and it has been approved by all Muslim world.
Where are we standing? And the right way in my view is just the same as Muslims has taken against Qadianis.
Extra Judicial killings is not the solution of this phenomena.
We are fighting the war of two countries Iran and Saudi Arabia in our country, and this is not a good thing.
I have posted the full question paper again.
It will give a brief knowledge to come to the point.
Try to give the answer.
Only by giving these references, I will have to see it by myself in the book and then will decide.
But the questions above are also very important to consider on them.
Only by giving the comment of beating around the bush will not help you my dear.
The truth will always be truth either you beat around the bush or I.
Truth will not change. So be patience and don't make panic.
What is your opinion about the Imam Shahrastani (548 H) point of view.
It gives us a proof that up till 548 H Shia was not declared as Non Muslim.
What do you say?
The definition of a Muslim will define either some person is Muslim or not.
The statement above you have given get what effect on the definition will decide it.
So just work on the question paper I had given you.
You are also assuming, I have asked very simple questions.
The second part of my question was unanswered and I am writing now for the third time about the question followed:
And also let me know about your opinion on the people who justify Yazeed?
Other questions are also unanswered.
Another point which will help us a lot is that when was the first Fatwa was given against Shia declaring them as Kafir?
Who give this Fatwa? Name the person.
Secondly why we Muslims has not made approach together of declaring Shia as Kafir?
What is the definition of a Muslim? And does Shia fulfill this definition or not?
I am asking these questions because we Muslims has declared Qadianis as non Muslims not long ago, and it has been approved by all Muslim world.
Where are we standing? And the right way in my view is just the same as Muslims has taken against Qadianis.
Extra Judicial killings is not the solution of this phenomena.
We are fighting the war of two countries Iran and Saudi Arabia in our country, and this is not a good thing.
I have posted the full question paper again.
It will give a brief knowledge to come to the point.
Try to give the answer.
Only by giving these references, I will have to see it by myself in the book and then will decide.
But the questions above are also very important to consider on them.
Only by giving the comment of beating around the bush will not help you my dear.
The truth will always be truth either you beat around the bush or I.
Truth will not change. So be patience and don't make panic.
What is your opinion about the Imam Shahrastani (548 H) point of view.
It gives us a proof that up till 548 H Shia was not declared as Non Muslim.
What do you say?
The definition of a Muslim will define either some person is Muslim or not.
The statement above you have given get what effect on the definition will decide it.
So just work on the question paper I had given you.
noor fatimahYesterday 21:36
about yazeed, it is
agreed upon by scholars that he should neither be cursed nor be praised.
his matter is left with ALLAH.
Muhammad Irfan KasYesterday 23:32Edit
Can you name some scholars who are agreed on not to curse
him and what is the reason of not cursing him?
Muhammad Irfan KasYesterday 23:38Edit
After the Shahadat of Hazrat Imam Hussain Radiallah Ta ala
Anho, in history we get many incidents that when the remaining Sahaba
has cursed upon him.
So if we not curse him we are doing against Sahaba.
You can read the history written by Jalaluddin Sayyoti at given link.
http://irfankas.blogspot.com/2012/04/history-of-caliphs-from-hazrat-ali.html
So if we not curse him we are doing against Sahaba.
You can read the history written by Jalaluddin Sayyoti at given link.
http://irfankas.blogspot.com/2012/04/history-of-caliphs-from-hazrat-ali.html
noor fatimahYesterday 23:40
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there are many, not just
one, i must name d.r israr ahmed for he also hold sht esame opinion.
the reason why he should neither be cursed nor be praise is that IT WAS NOT HE who ordered the killing of hussain r.a and his family members. actually hussain r.a. was given three choices and he chose to go to iraq , but the kufis -- they were not sincere to him, they wanted him to be dead they had some other plans, so from among yazid's army some people betrayed and killed hussain r.a. and his people who were with him.
yazid could not do anything when he heard this had happened.
also the matter of BAIT was resolved long ago when hassan r.a. transfered amir-ship to hazrat amir muawiya r.a. willingly and hussain r.a. agreed to it.
there is also a fact , that we should not forget is : hussain r.a. was nnot ami, but his elder brother hassan r.a. was, and he willingly gave amir ship to muawiya r.a. which was rightfully transfered to hsi son yazid.
this is among those few reasons which put the facts back to line otherwise hiustory is distorted.
the reason why he should neither be cursed nor be praise is that IT WAS NOT HE who ordered the killing of hussain r.a and his family members. actually hussain r.a. was given three choices and he chose to go to iraq , but the kufis -- they were not sincere to him, they wanted him to be dead they had some other plans, so from among yazid's army some people betrayed and killed hussain r.a. and his people who were with him.
yazid could not do anything when he heard this had happened.
also the matter of BAIT was resolved long ago when hassan r.a. transfered amir-ship to hazrat amir muawiya r.a. willingly and hussain r.a. agreed to it.
there is also a fact , that we should not forget is : hussain r.a. was nnot ami, but his elder brother hassan r.a. was, and he willingly gave amir ship to muawiya r.a. which was rightfully transfered to hsi son yazid.
this is among those few reasons which put the facts back to line otherwise hiustory is distorted.
Muhammad Irfan KasYesterday 23:44Edit
Can you please quote the reference book from which you have
got all these facts?
A very simple question from nowadays.
We recently have an incident of 12 May 2007 in Karachi.
Many people were killed
Who was responsible?
A very simple question from nowadays.
We recently have an incident of 12 May 2007 in Karachi.
Many people were killed
Who was responsible?
noor fatimahYesterday 23:46
yes sure let me find the book from my collection :).
and about 2007's incident, there were footages released, and those footages showed who were those people
and about 2007's incident, there were footages released, and those footages showed who were those people
Muhammad Irfan KasYesterday 23:47Edit
Why we
consider Pervaiz Musharraf and Altaf Hussain for this incident?
noor fatimahYesterday 23:48
book's name is "tregdy of karbala by dr. israr ahmed" and
another book "collection of articles refuting shias (their wrong
beliefs) i dnt remember its author's name"
Muhammad Irfan KasYesterday 23:50Edit
One more
thing Dr. Israr is not the authority to decide whether to curse or not.
The incident has been happened in early days, and the people at that time can decide whether to curse Yazeed or not?
And in the History written by old Scholars, point out that Yazeed has been cursed and will remain be cursed till the end of World.
The incident has been happened in early days, and the people at that time can decide whether to curse Yazeed or not?
And in the History written by old Scholars, point out that Yazeed has been cursed and will remain be cursed till the end of World.
Muhammad Irfan KasYesterday 23:51Edit
Please try
to give the reference of old books of that time, for nowadays scholars
are not reliable. They are totally Fitna.
noor fatimahYesterday 23:53
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dr. israr ahmed had much
more knowledge than you and me and many others. his knowledge is
recognized by many people. he is the one i named who belongs to recent
day scholars otherwise the scholars i know who belogn to old ages have
resolved this issue.
we should be nutrl and go for facts, rather than false fictions created by a group.
you must also knwo that there is a group in this world who celebrate hussain r.a. death every year. you shoudl know about that group as well, i hope when you will gather enough knowledge in this matter, you will reach the same opinion. and ALLAH knows the best
we should be nutrl and go for facts, rather than false fictions created by a group.
you must also knwo that there is a group in this world who celebrate hussain r.a. death every year. you shoudl know about that group as well, i hope when you will gather enough knowledge in this matter, you will reach the same opinion. and ALLAH knows the best
noor fatimahYesterday 23:54
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and just to enlighten you
up : read this
es we killed Hussain: Baqir Majlsi Shia Musanif
Shiya Musanif
Baqir MaJilsi
Likhta Hy K:
Log Hamain Ghaddar or Qatilane Hussain Kehty Hain, Aaj Main ye Kehta Hoon K Haan!!
Shiyon Ne Hi Ahle Bait Sy Ghaddari Ki or Unko Shaheed Kiya Pr Qasam Ly Lo Wo Hum Nahin thy Hamaarey Bap Dada thy Hum Unka Kaffara Ada Kr Rahe Hain"Matam"Kr Ky."
Refrence Book:
BIHAAR UL ANWAAR
Vol:55, Page# 34
(Shiyon Ki Muatabr Kitaab)
es we killed Hussain: Baqir Majlsi Shia Musanif
Shiya Musanif
Baqir MaJilsi
Likhta Hy K:
Log Hamain Ghaddar or Qatilane Hussain Kehty Hain, Aaj Main ye Kehta Hoon K Haan!!
Shiyon Ne Hi Ahle Bait Sy Ghaddari Ki or Unko Shaheed Kiya Pr Qasam Ly Lo Wo Hum Nahin thy Hamaarey Bap Dada thy Hum Unka Kaffara Ada Kr Rahe Hain"Matam"Kr Ky."
Refrence Book:
BIHAAR UL ANWAAR
Vol:55, Page# 34
(Shiyon Ki Muatabr Kitaab)
noor fatimahYesterday 23:56
you will find every one a fitnah, who coincides your view.
so brother i will l ike you to grab the knowledge all by yourself, just
as i did . assalamualikum wr wb
Muhammad Irfan Kas00:02Edit
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Madam Again
One more thing Dr. Israr is not the authority to decide whether to curse or not.
The incident has been happened in early days, and the people at that time can decide whether to curse Yazeed or not?
And in the History written by old Scholars, point out that Yazeed has been cursed and will remain be cursed till the end of World.
After the Shahadat of Hazrat Imam Hussain Radiallah Ta ala Anho, in history we get many incidents that when the remaining Sahaba has cursed upon him.
So if we not curse him we are doing against Sahaba.
You can read the history written by Jalaluddin Sayyoti at given link.
http://irfankas.blogspot.com/2012/04/history-of-caliphs-from-hazrat-ali.html noor fatimahYesterday 23:40
One more thing Dr. Israr is not the authority to decide whether to curse or not.
The incident has been happened in early days, and the people at that time can decide whether to curse Yazeed or not?
And in the History written by old Scholars, point out that Yazeed has been cursed and will remain be cursed till the end of World.
After the Shahadat of Hazrat Imam Hussain Radiallah Ta ala Anho, in history we get many incidents that when the remaining Sahaba has cursed upon him.
So if we not curse him we are doing against Sahaba.
You can read the history written by Jalaluddin Sayyoti at given link.
http://irfankas.blogspot.com/2012/04/history-of-caliphs-from-hazrat-ali.html noor fatimahYesterday 23:40
Muhammad Irfan Kas00:04Edit
Just like
the people of nowadays decide that Pervaiz Musharraf and Altaf Hussain
are responsible for 12 May 2007 incident.
noor fatimah00:06
nope, this is wrong. and i
already said, dr . israr was the modren day scholar who held the same
view as was held by other scholars.
and its ijtehad, that yazid should neither be cursed nor should he be praised, his matter is left with ALLAH swt.
this war in karbala was a war of political background. it had nothign to do with islam. becaus eyazid was also a muslim----- any way, i wil like to stick to what i have understood from historical work, you can explore it.
and its ijtehad, that yazid should neither be cursed nor should he be praised, his matter is left with ALLAH swt.
this war in karbala was a war of political background. it had nothign to do with islam. becaus eyazid was also a muslim----- any way, i wil like to stick to what i have understood from historical work, you can explore it.
Muhammad Irfan Kas00:12Edit
Again Madam:
If Yazeed is a Muslim and he kills Hazrat Imam Hussain or ordered to kill and if you deny then tell me why he attack Madina after this incident?
There also many Sahaba's were killed same was the case with Hajjaj, after some time that he also killed some Sahaba's
So if a person who curse Sahaba is a Non Muslim then a person who kills Sahaba or ordered to kill Sahaba is a Muslim.
What a great logic.
If Yazeed is a Muslim and he kills Hazrat Imam Hussain or ordered to kill and if you deny then tell me why he attack Madina after this incident?
There also many Sahaba's were killed same was the case with Hajjaj, after some time that he also killed some Sahaba's
So if a person who curse Sahaba is a Non Muslim then a person who kills Sahaba or ordered to kill Sahaba is a Muslim.
What a great logic.
noor fatimah00:17
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you are forgetting one
hadith , let me remind you
muhammad s.a.w.w said that if once in my ummah, sword rises , it will never stop till the day of judgement.
you should also remembe rthe war between hazrat ali r.a. and anothe rmuslim sahabi, in this war many sahaba's were killed, which means? both hazrat ali and other sahabi were nauzubillah not muslims?
thats why i said, you have to grab some knowledge over the yazid issue, unfortunatly, shias have spread enoguh lies already.
muhammad s.a.w.w said that if once in my ummah, sword rises , it will never stop till the day of judgement.
you should also remembe rthe war between hazrat ali r.a. and anothe rmuslim sahabi, in this war many sahaba's were killed, which means? both hazrat ali and other sahabi were nauzubillah not muslims?
thats why i said, you have to grab some knowledge over the yazid issue, unfortunatly, shias have spread enoguh lies already.
Muhammad Irfan Kas00:41Edit
Madam I am
just quoting these words because of the post issued here on top
mentioning that (Sahaba ka Munkir Kafir), this makes me think all this.
The incident has taken place and no one can deny it.
Now you name it either politic situation or not a politic situation. This is a non issue in this whole incident. Why?
Because there is also a Hadith which defines that Imam Hasan and Imam Hussain are the leaders of young in Jannat. So the destination of both the brothers has been decided by our beloved prophet Hazrat Muhammad Sallalaho Alaihe Wassalam. But there is no surety for any of us including Yazeed.
According to Imam Abu Hanifa (I follow) jurisprudence we should remain silent on this issue.
And According to Imam Malik or Imam Ahmed bin Hunble
(I am not sure which one) Yazeed is a Non Muslim.
Now According to Hadith that fight will not end, it does not tell us to not decide among the right or wrong.
It gives us the future incident which will took place.
The link which I have post is just a one link, I will soon be able to give some more books reference of old times of which one is Imam Jozi.
You can also study those books.
The reason is not that you should change your opinion.
The reason is that you should respect others as you have mentioned it as political (not my view) and should not say the words which end up like the situation you have mentioned above.
"you should also remember the war between hazrat ali r.a. and anothe rmuslim sahabi, in this war many sahaba's were killed, which means? both hazrat ali and other sahabi were nauzubillah not muslims? "
The incident has taken place and no one can deny it.
Now you name it either politic situation or not a politic situation. This is a non issue in this whole incident. Why?
Because there is also a Hadith which defines that Imam Hasan and Imam Hussain are the leaders of young in Jannat. So the destination of both the brothers has been decided by our beloved prophet Hazrat Muhammad Sallalaho Alaihe Wassalam. But there is no surety for any of us including Yazeed.
According to Imam Abu Hanifa (I follow) jurisprudence we should remain silent on this issue.
And According to Imam Malik or Imam Ahmed bin Hunble
(I am not sure which one) Yazeed is a Non Muslim.
Now According to Hadith that fight will not end, it does not tell us to not decide among the right or wrong.
It gives us the future incident which will took place.
The link which I have post is just a one link, I will soon be able to give some more books reference of old times of which one is Imam Jozi.
You can also study those books.
The reason is not that you should change your opinion.
The reason is that you should respect others as you have mentioned it as political (not my view) and should not say the words which end up like the situation you have mentioned above.
"you should also remember the war between hazrat ali r.a. and anothe rmuslim sahabi, in this war many sahaba's were killed, which means? both hazrat ali and other sahabi were nauzubillah not muslims? "
brother irfan, when you yourself said that imam abu hanifah said to be quite in this matter, then we should be quite in this matter. regarding the plac eof hazrat hassan and hazrat hussain r.a. in jannat, so there are also many sahabah r.a. who were this glad tiding i.e. thier place in jannat.
ReplyDeleteby mentioning the incident, i was only trying to make my point that we have no authority, not even a scholar have any auhturity to mark some one as jannati aur jahanumi, its ALLAH who will decide, so lets be quiet in this issue.
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