Saturday 2 June 2012

Another Discussion with Wahabis.


Manoo Mit +1'd your postMohib Saloh and Ringo Khan commented on it. -  03:29

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Muhammad Irfan Kas1 Jun 2012Edit
This person has gone mad about Iran
Ringo Khan1 Jun 2012 (edited)
No dear this is true... You people are blind about Iran...
Muhammad Irfan Kas1 Jun 2012Edit
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Just Leave it. This is just the propaganda of Wahabis, which is in Arab Countries. For us both Wahabism and Shiaism are same. And they are mad against each other. But Shiaism is better in the sense that they are against USA. And these Arabs are ally of USA. And we know by news nowadays that how Saudi Arab has pressurized Pakistan against Iran for Oil and Gas pipeline.
The Saud Family got the kingdom because of these US and British.
The Saud Family we know the history is just like Zardari. Known as the pirates.
Ringo Khan1 Jun 2012
dear I re share a post in which there is a heading and next there are argument, on the behalf of arguments the post heading is altogether right. What do you think that 5 sunni states are trying to convert into shia states this is a propaganda of Wahabis? don't know how please explain?
And dear what a beautiful criteria you have defiend that Shiaism is better in a sense that they are against USA....Than Taliban are much more better than Iran those are fighting against USA almost about 10 years.
If Shiaism is against USA than why USA destroy the government of Saddam in Iraq (Sunni government) and make Shia government.
in the same way all about...It is just a drama at international level with 2 actors Iran and USA........
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noor fatimah1 Jun 2012
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jews will never let america attack iran.
isfahan is like divine city of jews. their prophets' graves are there and that is the point and place according to orthodox jews from where their masiha and our dajjal will appear.
Mohib Saloh1 Jun 2012
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ap k shrow wale points tu sahi hain par mist aur libya wali bat sahi nahi wahan wo he Islamic fighters lead kar rhe hein jinhon ne diffa karna shrow kara...& now because of the help of allah they are taking ground there so many picture of that

For example in sinai,misar..the mostly are are ruled by mujahiddin which opens the gate to GAzza...second in misr election the parties which takes majority they ikhwasn ul muslimoon & Alnoor(salafi party) so both are pure sunni & fundamentalist...

So the thing is jahan muslims ko ab victory mil rhi hai us ko bhe neglate kar k apne hosle past nahi karne chahye..now muslim are gaining ground & Sun is going to rise
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Muhammad Irfan Kas1 Jun 2012Edit
My Dear there was not a single Sunni State. These all are Wahabi States.
There is a wast difference between Sunni and Wahabi.
Never ever try to mix this concept.

To clear my point what I know is this that the whole plan was going according to what America has wanted until another power Russian interest has taken place and now these two big ones are fighting and the people there are suffering.
It does not mean that no one is right, but in politics many things are unfortunate and I am not fully aware of what is happening there.
Whatever is the situation but one thing has to be made clear :
That it is not a matter of Wahabi and Shia. The real matter is that the system which has been implemented to whole world has now got a challenge from Islam.
This is because of Afghan War.
Now just observe that Britian has been defeated, then Russia and Now USA + Nato means means the whole Europe and USA are facing the worst defeat and you people are not aware that the ultimate result is that the Islamic System will get the share and it will spread all around the world, and we have already seen that how the West is getting aware of Islam.
The Enemy is trying to divert our aim and trying to create Fitna among Muslims.
So this is my request that do not ever try to think on this kind of propaganda.    
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Muhammad Irfan Kas1 Jun 2012Edit
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+noor fatimah In which world are you people living.
Just take my words that Dajjal which you are explaining will not come in your life and neither in your children life, if they exist.
Always try to see the real world not the world of Dreams.
Ringo Khan1 Jun 2012
Dear describe the difference between Sunni and Wahabi and also how these states are Wahabi states?
Don't understand what you are trying to say but one thing is clear that only shia and shia nawaz people defiend this term Wahabi for these states to detach the attention of Muslims from Muslims states that for rest of the word only 2 terms are used sunni and shia and these states are sunni states and Iran is shia state. And Shia is itself Fitna amoung Muslims.
If you still think that this is just a propaganda than take a look at Syria where about 70% sunni population is brutally attacked by Shia government and almost 40-50 people shaeed daily including small babies.
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Ringo Khan1 Jun 2012
According to Ahadees of Holy Prophet Muhammad (P.B.U.H) Dajjal must come and jews are preparing for that time. So it is the reality of world not Dreams. 
Mohib SalohYesterday 02:54
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I am totally not agree with you wahabbi are are also following the same as ahle sunnah wal jamah..But ahle biddat are not include in ahle sunna wal jamat..like ahle sunat & barelvi's..

Any this is global thing what i was telling you that mujahiddin are gaining grounds every where & implementing a Shria.. this week they conqueror Mali..Timaktu & Goa & they got a booty(maale ghanimat) of lot of weapons..Situation in Yemen is very good for the true muslims..so the situation are changing...Misar is pllaying a key role in the region..So there is goods coming Inshallah..Caliphate is coming...

If you need the pictures of them i can upload it here
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Mohib SalohYesterday 05:13 (edited)
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for an instance please see the below video...this is just for giving you an example of  ground realities & the victories those are mujahiddin  got in last few days...

however the video is more in the favour of last mali government..as the kuffar dont want to see the Mali as an pure Islamic state or u can say kuffar dont want the caliphate will again establish which will be establish very soon inshallah..& Glad tiding are coming...

Kuffar propagating they are very strong & powerful so called super power..Allah give the power to his soldiers & Allah have the all powers & All is the only super power..Which they (kuffar) dont want to accept..

Specifically: wathc start & on 27:00 mins

شمال افريقيا...معقل طالبان افريقيا- الجزء الأول
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Muhammad Irfan KasYesterday 22:36Edit
"""According to Ahadees of Holy Prophet Muhammad (P.B.U.H) Dajjal must come and jews are preparing for that time. So it is the reality of world not Dreams."""

My Dear I am telling you that Dajjal which will be against Hazrat Essa Alaihe Assalam will not come in your life and neither in the life of your children.
So just think of what now a days situation in the current situation.

The difference of Wahabi's and Sunni's will be much more clear by some clips given below:

https://plus.google.com/photos/115082525267888009472/albums/5748600815276724625/5748600814229266482

https://plus.google.com/photos/115082525267888009472/albums/5749339854768610321/5749339858323519026

https://plus.google.com/photos/115082525267888009472/albums/5749391222168916593/5749391223587668114

A book is also on Iman Abu Talib.

http://irfankas.blogspot.com/2012/06/tahqiq-e-iman-abu-talib-book-which.html
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Ringo Khan00:34
My Dear you have no authority to say that Dajjal which will be against Hazrat Essa (A.S) will not come in your life and neither in the life of your children.....
And dear Jews are preparing for Dajjal time and we Muslims should understands their tactics in making the circumstances smooth and reliable for that....Whole world media, military, banking sectors,Internet  and education sectors is in the hand of Jews....We should understand it instead of being a part of that by just saying that Dajjal will not come in my life and also in my children life.
And dear your link of Wahabi's and Sunnis is not opening for me I have no rights to open it
And book is opening but I don't know why you share it because it did't have materiel about the difference of Wahabis and Sunnies..... 
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Mohib Saloh02:58
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Hazrat essa alehisallam will kill dajjal & muslims will kill yahodis' On that muslim are fighting under the banner of hazrat mahdi(Muhammad bin abdullah)..the ahadees of end of time are mostly full fill, like ahadees of the army of adan abyan  & army of khurasan..Black flags comes from khurasan(Afghanistan)..Jihad in sham..Jihad in Iraq...

For more details read babul fitan of Muslim & bukhari...& i must say read the book 3jange azim aur dajjal...

Inshallah the day is near when hazrat mahdi & Hazrat Essa will come...& i wish i will b in that army..& All muslims should...

Muhammad Irfan khos my dear brother you have to read about the ahadess of end of time...you have a lack of knowledge...its not good to talk with un authenticated knowledge...

Second my dear bro who is imam abu talib..are you talking about Abu talib the father's brother of beloved Prophet SAllaho alehiwasalam...?? If you are talking about him..then i want to tell you that he was not muslim so how become he is your imam??? this is the aqeeda of Shia Rafidhi...

& as i told you wahabis are in the ahle sunnahwal jamah & they are following the truth aqeeda what 4 imams declare...
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Mohib Saloh03:01
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My dear brother irfan if you want to talk for the bigger cause then you dont need to talk for sects...Muslims should be united for establishing caliphate...& should stand up to protect their dean under the banner of one flag which is La Illaha Illallah Muhammad ur rasool Allah...Sallalho alehi wasallm..As mujahiddin are united all over the world...

You should think for the bigger cause...
Mohib Saloh03:04
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see the Revival Series..for Ahadeeth of end of times...below i linked two episodes..This series is authenticated by ulma & in thhs series they talked about with the Quran & ahadeeth

The Revival : Part 1 - The Truth About The 12 Khaleefs
The Revival : Part 5 - The Islamic Army Rising From Khorasan
Mohib Saloh03:29
& one thing i want to say regarding this post..
Col.Kadafi was a fatimi( A extremist Shia sect) & he call himself as a caliph...
Hassni mubarak was a real traitor of Islam &  Pure secular man, who signed a pact with so called Israel...
In Syria..the current massacre is going on under the rule of nasiri shia president Bashar ul asad..as his father did...& he call him self as a God naodobillah...Free Syrian Army resisting him & gaining a ground public are with them..Free Syrian Amy which jaish al hur are pure sunnis..
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Muhammad Irfan Kas06:07Edit
""""""Second my dear bro who is imam abu talib..are you talking about Abu talib the father's brother of beloved Prophet SAllaho alehiwasalam...?? If you are talking about him..then i want to tell you that he was not muslim so how become he is your imam??? this is the aqeeda of Shia Rafidhi...""""""""

Your comment  about Abu Talib RadiAllah Anho showsme that how seriosly you have read the book.   My Dear the word is  "Iman"   and not Imam as you are mentioning. It also shows that you have not read the book , so I am unable to help you.  Secondly I have given this link because of the request of +Ringo Khan and I am not interested in any way to change your thoughts. This book will only help those who want to learn and not to teach. I am a learner and not a teacher, and I thank Allah that I do not get a teacher like you.

""""""& as i told you wahabis are in the ahle sunnahwal jamah & they are following the truth aqeeda what 4 imams declare...""""""

Suppose there is a cup jar of salt and on that jar there is a big word printed "SUGAR".  Now because of the word SUGAR printed outside the Jar the salt will not become sweet.
Same is the case of Wahabi's that no matter how much they call themselves as AhleSunnah and whatever they will remain Wahabi.

""""Muhammad Irfan khos my dear brother you have to read about the ahadess of end of time...you have a lack of knowledge...its not good to talk with un authenticated knowledge..."'"""

I have written before in my debates with different people that the personal Fatwa will not be considered.
I have not asked you about the level of my knowledge and neither I want to know your level of knowledge.
If you have anything to discuss and you can show us with full proof it will be helpful. Otherwise just remain silence.

""""""My dear brother irfan if you want to talk for the bigger cause then you dont need to talk for sects...Muslims should be united for establishing caliphate...& should stand up to protect their dean under the banner of one flag which is La Illaha Illallah Muhammad ur rasool Allah...Sallalho alehi wasallm..As mujahiddin are united all over the world...

You should think for the bigger cause..."""""""


The banner above is showing the Fitna in between Muslims.
The banner above is against the unity of Muslims, and because of this only I have to pass the comment.
My comments are not to change the Wahabis.
But for the people who just come under the pressure of these propaganda.
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Muhammad Irfan Kas06:22Edit
+Ringo Khan """"""""My Dear you have no authority to say that Dajjal which will be against Hazrat Essa (A.S) will not come in your life and neither in the life of your children....."""""""""

I have not asked for any Fatwa that whether I have the authority or not to write the words above. I know about my authority very well.

"""""""""And dear Jews are preparing for Dajjal time and we Muslims should understands their tactics in making the circumstances smooth and reliable for that....Whole world media, military, banking sectors,Internet  and education sectors is in the hand of Jews....We should understand it instead of being a part of that by just saying that Dajjal will not come in my life and also in my children life.""""""""""""

First of all this whole discussion has been started because of the banner posted above about Shia. You people then turn it towards Dajjal.
When you people can't give any proof of whatever you are saying then you just change the topic.
So, I have never stop you to do not prepare against Jews.


"""""And dear your link of Wahabi's and Sunnis is not opening for me I have no rights to open it""""

It was my mistake, so sorry for this.
The links which I am giving you now is a Lecture on Khatam e Nabuwwat and during this lecture the Aqaid of Ahle Sunnat are also been mentioned, you will have to judge yourself. The first link is Audio and other 3 are videos of same lecture.

http://irfankas.blogspot.com/2012/06/lecture-on-khatm-e-nabuwwat-at_1330.html

http://irfankas.blogspot.com/2012/06/lecture-on-khatm-e-nabuwwat-at_02.html

http://irfankas.blogspot.com/2012/06/lecture-on-khatm-e-nabuwwat-at.html

http://irfankas.blogspot.com/2012/05/lecture-on-khatm-e-nabuwwat-at.html

""""""And book is opening but I don't know why you share it because it did't have materiel about the difference of Wahabis and Sunnies..... """

If you have read the book you will get the view of Ahl e Sunnat about AbuTalib Radi Allah Anho. and you must have known better about the views of Wahabis.
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