Wahabism is another name to Justify Yazeed. Another discussion on Yazeedi Fitna Zakir Naik.

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Muhammad Irfan Kas15:40Edit

Zakir Naik Yazeedi Fitna.

Owais Masood15:48

how could u say this ?? reason ??

Muhammad Irfan Kas15:55Edit

http://irfankas.blogspot.com/2012/04/be-conscious-muslimsbe-careful-of-zakir.html

http://irfankas.blogspot.com/2012/04/sharia-talks-about-people-who-make-fun.html

http://irfankas.blogspot.com/2012/04/our-beloved-sahaba-e-karam-companions.html

http://irfankas.blogspot.com/2012/04/history-of-caliphs-from-hazrat-ali.html

http://irfankas.blogspot.com/2012/04/be-careful.html

http://irfankas.blogspot.com/2012/04/muhammad-shuaib-najeeb-ullah-khan-you.html

http://irfankas.blogspot.com/2012/04/must-read-is-islam-democratic-religion.html

http://irfankas.blogspot.com/2012/04/quran-and-science-with-zakir-naik.html

http://irfankas.blogspot.com/2012/04/islam-and-concept-of-religions-unity.html

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Owais Masood16:02

But my all brother imam abu hanifa(rehmatullah) said that yazeed are not (maloon)and also amed raza khan barelvi said that we dont say yazid is maloon(laanti) y u are saying ??
if u need reference for all these quotes i will mention it too.

Muhammad Irfan Kas16:08Edit

post the references.
One thing to clear you is this, That to put a curse saying (laanti) is a different thing then to say a Non Muslim ( Kafir ).
So first make it clear, and then post the reference.

Owais Masood16:29

imam abu hanifa ne yazeed ke bare main soqoot ikhtiyar kia ha na us ko bura kaha hai aur na acha kaha hai aur ahmed raza khan ne bhi yahi kaha hai ke mian us ko bura nahi kehta jab tumhare imam nahi kehte tu tum kyun bura kehte hai aur ye rahe reference (Irfane-e shariat, jild 2 safa number 39, maslaa number 34) yahan imam abu hanifa ne laanat or takfeer donun se sakoot ikhtiyaar kia or manfuzaat ala hazarat main ahmed raza khan barelwi ne bhi yehi kaha hai k main isko bura nhia kehta !!

Muhammad Irfan Kas17:07Edit

Can you please give the picture of these pages also.

Muhammad Irfan Kas17:08Edit

Also mention the question asked to them. with pictures please.

Owais Masood17:09

ok bro please wait !!

Owais Masood17:27

bro i have shared images with u

Muhammad Irfan Kas17:33Edit

It is not much cleared? I try to read it and what I understand is that it discusses with the government of Islam. Secondly it is from Aala Hazrat, and I am not a Barelvi, I am from Ahle Sunnat not a Barelvi.

Muhammad Irfan Kas17:45Edit

After having so much of literature about Yazeed Lanti. We do not want any Fatwas which can justify him.

fozi saim17:47

Irfan sab kabhi malo Dr Naik Zakir sab se phir pata chale ese fatwa laga dia jo Banda Islam ki baat karta hai to tum use yazidi keh dete ho.

Muhammad Irfan Kas17:52Edit

The Non Muslims also talk about Islam. The most important thing is Faith.
The Faith of Zakir Naik (Yazeedi) is not according to Ahle Sunnat not only for Yazeed but also for our beloved prophet Hazrat Muhammad Sallalaho Alaihe Wassaalam. Secondly if you want to be with Zakir Naik , I will not stop you. Neither I will force you to change your faith. Be happy with your faith and we are happy with our faith.

fozi saim17:54

Janab Irfan sab aap khud ko theek karo na k dosro par fatwe lagao.Mere siwa sab Muslman aap se ache hain.

fozi saim17:54

aap mujhe ye bata do Islam aap se kia chahta hai?

Muhammad Irfan Kas18:22 (edited)Edit

The destination of our beloved Sahaba's Hazrat Imam Hussain Radiaalla Ta ala Anho and Hazrat Imam Hasan Radiallah Ta ala Anho is mentioned and decided as by our beloved prophet Hazrat Muhammad Sallalaho Alaihe Wassalam that Hazrat Imam Hasan Radiallah Ta ala Anho and Hazrat Imam Hussain Radiallah Ta ala Anho are the leaders of young in Jannat.
But the destination of Zakir naik Yazeedi, Yazeed himself, yours and mine is not been mentioned.
The incident has taken place and no one can deny it.
So we should talk the good deeds of the people whose seats are confirmed in Jannat.
And not try to justify the person (Yazeed) who is being known as a drunker in the History.
The reference is of Jalaluddin Sayyoti of 600 Hijri approx.

http://irfankas.blogspot.com/2012/04/history-of-caliphs-from-hazrat-ali.html

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Owais Masood08:40

brother yazid k baare main sirf fatwa hain different ulma k , kaheen per bhi nabi(s.a.w) ka ya kisi bhi sahaba ka qaul nahi hai k jahan waziha ho k woh laanti hai .
tu aap ye jo fatwe ham ne quote kiye hain imam abu hanifa(rehmatullah) k tu aap apne imam ka fatwa qn nahi maante ??

Owais Masood08:49

jalaluddin sayooti 600 hijri ki hai as u mentioned , pehle aap ye riwayat chek karo k ye sahi hai ya nahi ,
or ager koi sharabi tha tu kia usko aap laanti kahoge ??
ager wo sharab peeta hai tu ye uska apna amal hai aap usko bura kehsakte ho per laanti nahi
or kia ALLAH or us k rasool(s.a.w) or ashab(r.a) main se kisi ne kaha hai ager unho ne kaha hai tu aap bhi kaho or ham bhi kahainge .
Nabi(s.a.w) ne murde ki burai karne se mana farmaya hai .reference(Sunan Abu dawood)

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Owais Masood08:55

one more thing ye k ahlesunnat kis ko kehte hain or un k aqaed kia hain ,, kia un aqaed per zakir naik poora nahi utarta or ager nahi utarta tu wo kia aqaed hain jo us k ahle sunnat se takrate hain ?? please answer
sirf ilm ki buniad per ya kisi bhi wajha se ager wo kuch ayat quote nahi karpaya (as u mentioned in above links) tu inki buniad per aap kisiko is tarha kahoge thats very unfair !!

Muhammad Irfan Kas15:46Edit

Can you please give me your Faith (Aqaed)?
Also give me Zakir Naik's Faith ?
It is your duty to mention his faith and your faith, not mine since I have mentioned my faith that according to Ahle Sunnat he is Laanti.
Yazeed was not in the era of our beloved prophet Hazrat Muhammad Sallalaho Alaihe Wassalam.
Can you please give any reason that Imam Jalaluddin Sayyoti 600 Hijri mentioning Yazeed as a Lanti is incorrect.
Secondly Imam Jalaluddin Sayyoti is the big name in Ahle Sunnat and he has been quoted for Aqaed in Ahle sunnat.


Zakir Naikm is Fitna , I have told you that if you want to follow Zakir Naik, just follow him as other Yazeedis are following him. I will not pressurize you.




Since The destination of our beloved Sahaba's Hazrat Imam Hussain Radiaalla Ta ala Anho and Hazrat Imam Hasan Radiallah Ta ala Anho is mentioned and decided as by our beloved prophet Hazrat Muhammad Sallalaho Alaihe Wassalam that Hazrat Imam Hasan Radiallah Ta ala Anho and Hazrat Imam Hussain Radiallah Ta ala Anho are the leaders of young in Jannat.
But the destination of Zakir naik Yazeedi, Yazeed himself, yours and mine is not been mentioned.
The incident has taken place and no one can deny it.
So we should talk the good deeds of the people whose seats are confirmed in Jannat.
And not try to justify the person (Yazeed) who is being known as a drunker in the History.
What will be your behavior with a person of whom you know that he is going to Jannat ?

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Owais Masood16:09

jalluddin sayooti 900 hijri k hain tu unho ne 600 hijri main kaise kehdia
or brothe imam abu hanifa 80 hijri k hain waqia karbala se 16 saal baad birth hui hai , jab wo nahi kehte tu sir aap kaise kehrahe ho please elobrate
ager aap ahle sunnat ho tu imam abu hanifa ko har ahle sunnat manta hai k wo bht bare imam hai
please pehle is baat ki wazahat karain


or sir Nabi Sallalaho Alaihe Wassalam ne qayamat tak ki batain batai hain tu unho ne yazeed k baare main qn nahi bataya k ye laanti hai ??

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Muhammad Irfan Kas16:16Edit

Imam Abu Hanifa has just not given the Fatwa of his being a Non MUslim and not that he is not a Lanti.
According to our beloved peophet Hazrat Muhammad Sallalaho Alaihe Wassalam the love of Ahl e Bait is must for a Muslim. and Yazid does not love the Ahl e Bait thats why he is a Lanti.
Are you Ahle Sunnat or Wahabi?

Owais Masood16:21

Imam Abu Hanifa has just not given the Fatwa of his being a Non MUslim and not that he is not a Lanti.
please isko urdu main waziha karain ??

Owais Masood16:38

ham ahle bait se ham bhi mohabbat karte hain .or ye kahan likha hai k yazid ahle bait se mohabbat nahi karta tha !!
imam abu hanifa k bare main kia kahoge jo isko laanti nahi kehte ??
ahmed raza khan barelwi bhi nahi kehte tu is k baare main aapki kia rae hai ??

Muhammad Irfan Kas16:43Edit

First give me this answer and then we will go further.
Is it right to say Ya Rasool Allah ?

Owais Masood16:47

ye bilkul theek hai ager ismain Nabi Muhammad Sallalaho Alaihe Wassalam sun rahe hain , dekh rahe hain ya madad karenge tu ye sab shirk k zimre main aega !!

Owais Masood16:49

and brother koi non muslim bhi ager aap se poche ga tu aap ki resposibility hai usko baat wazeh karna na k ye k us se poochna k aap kon ho kia aqaed hain ? ?

Muhammad Irfan Kas16:55Edit

Then the discussion is closed because you are belong to Wahabism.
And for Wahabi's there are books references, so first give the answers to those books.

This is the point of view of Ahle Sunnat for Wahabism.

http://irfankas.blogspot.com/2012/04/shariah-talks-about-law-of-apostasy.html
http://irfankas.blogspot.com/2012/04/sharia-talks-about-people-who-make-fun.html
http://irfankas.blogspot.com/2012/04/our-beloved-sahaba-e-karam-companions.html

http://irfankas.blogspot.com/2012/04/some-words-about-atta-ullah-shah.html

http://irfankas.blogspot.com/2012/04/be-careful.html

http://irfankas.blogspot.com/2012/04/pdf-file-of-balakot-tehreek.html


We can never be able to match. So as I have told you before that be happy with your faith and we are happy with ours.

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According to Ahle Sunnat for a Non Muslim is this that first become a Muslim by giving Shahadat (Ashhad an La Ilaha Illa Allah Wa Ashhado anna Muhammad ur Rasool Allah Sallalaho Alaihe Wassalam )

Owais Masood16:47

ye bilkul theek hai ager ismain Nabi Muhammad Sallalaho Alaihe Wassalam sun rahe hain , dekh rahe hain ya madad karenge tu ye sab shirk k zimre main aega !!

Owais Masood16:49

and brother koi non muslim bhi ager aap se poche ga tu aap ki resposibility hai usko baat wazeh karna na k ye k us se poochna k aap kon ho kia aqaed hain ? ?

Muhammad Irfan Kas16:55Edit

Then the discussion is closed because you are belong to Wahabism.
And for Wahabi's there are books references, so first give the answers to those books.


This is the point of view of Ahle Sunnat for Wahabism.


http://irfankas.blogspot.com/2012/04/shariah-talks-about-law-of-apostasy.html
http://irfankas.blogspot.com/2012/04/sharia-talks-about-people-who-make-fun.html
http://irfankas.blogspot.com/2012/04/our-beloved-sahaba-e-karam-companions.html


http://irfankas.blogspot.com/2012/04/some-words-about-atta-ullah-shah.html


http://irfankas.blogspot.com/2012/04/be-careful.html


http://irfankas.blogspot.com/2012/04/pdf-file-of-balakot-tehreek.html




We can never be able to match. So as I have told you before that be happy with your faith and we are happy with ours.

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Owais Masood17:05

sir aap please give the short description what u say about wahabi phir ham reply kardain we cant read those so much book now it will take few days !!
or aap imam abu hanifa or amhed raza khan barelvi k baare main kia kahoge jo yazid ko na kafir kehte hain na laanti kehte hain ??

Muhammad Irfan Kas17:11Edit

The discussion is closed my dear. what I can say when amhed raza khan barelvi has given many Fatawas against Wahabism.

Muhammad Irfan Kas17:13Edit

I am giving you this reference because you are mentioning the name of ahmed raza khan, we have many other scholars who are against Wahabism.

Muhammad Irfan Kas17:13Edit

Because I am not a Barelvi.

Owais Masood17:20

ahmed raza khan ne wahabi per fatwe deye hain mager hamari baat wahabi per nahi yazeed per ho rahi the aur imam abu hanifa yazeed ko lanti nahi kehte app batao ab ap imam abu hanifa ke bare mian kia kehte ho aur isi terha ahmed raza khan ko kia kehte ho ye jawab doo wahabism per hamari baat shoro nahi hoi the tu ap pehle is ka jawab do phir wahabism per bhi baat kerte hain.

Muhammad Irfan Kas17:26Edit

My Brother Wahabism has adopt Yazeed. Therefore both are same.

Owais Masood17:28

tu what will you say about imam abu hanifa and aala hazraar?
qn k ye bhi yazeed ko bura nahi kehte !!

Owais Masood17:29

or mene aapka aqaed nahi pooche wihthout explaination
brother aap ka farz hai batana na k ye keh kar kahtam kar dena k koi kia hai!! ok

Muhammad Irfan Kas17:32Edit

Also They had never written a good word for Yazeed.

Muhammad Irfan Kas17:33Edit

Whether they had written any good word for Yazeed?

Muhammad Irfan Kas17:35Edit

Can you mention some persons who has written good words for Yazeed? What were the words?

yes bro thats the point that either think good or either think bad for him as i mentioned in above quote k murde k bare main bura nahi kehna chahye Janab jo insan marr jata hai use bura bhala nhi keh sakte agar kaho ge to us ka to kuch nhi jaye ga lekin tumhin zaroor nuqsaan uthana parde ga Invalid Answer Please try again. Can you mention some persons who has written good words for Yazeed? What were the words? a   Yes b    No